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VarAC 11.2.0 and Win 11 update KB5058411

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After the last Windows 11 update (KB5058411), my current VarAC installation froze after start.

I had to restore the system from a backup.

Now I'm missing all security updates, I've stopped Windows Updates to avoid a recurrence.

It's not just me, other OMs are experiencing this.

Is there a workaround or a developer's comment?

I can't find anything relevant; I might be looking in the wrong place. +++73+++

26 comments

Comments (26)

irad d

20hs

Guys - those who experience the hang - can you make sure you are not on "Linux compatibility mode" (under settings -> Misc). Long shot but maybe related to a specific font being used in this mode. LMK please.

13HN1642

20min

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Good news. I performed the test as requested. VarAC now starts without problems on my system. Of course, I don't know if this is the case for every affected OM. I simply modified the .INI as you described. Thank you very much!

irad d

15min

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Please play around with VarAC. Make sure you can beacon, make a QSO, PING... access the QSO log. basic stuff just so I know all is functional and no hidden areas... thank you!

13HN1642

10min

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I'm testing exactly that right now. Start repeated several times - check! If I encounter any problems, I'll let you know, of course. I'll be testing it intensively this weekend. 73

irad d

hace 3 d

Gentleman - try to see if you hanging you have an error on the windows event-viewer. this might help us understand what is triggering this. Obviously Microsoft has broken something and if I know what I may be able to work around it.

TTSVoiceWizard

hace 1 d

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Let me know if you figure anything out about this. I have a Winform .Net application called TTS Voice Wizard on Github where users are reporting the same issue after the Windows KB5058499 Update. Application will "Hang" upon launch and they will see that the app as "Not Responding". The current work around is to uninstall the most recent update which is usually KB5058499 for most users. Microsoft really has broken something. I've tried changing the targeted framework for my app from .NET 6.0 to 8.0 however this has no effect. I have 1 PC that is on Update KB5058499 and doesn't have issues and another on on the Update that does experience the application Hanging so I'm trying to play spot the difference right now to figure out what's happening 💀. I've not been able to find any useful information in event viewer. This forum is the only location I've found mentioning the same issue. I'll follow this post and the other one "VarAC not responding all of a sudden" mentioning the issue. If I figure out anything I'll let you know as well. 🫡

irad d

21hs

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Thank you Mr. TTS :)

I also did not find any evidence for the root cause. I have 3 PC here at home with windows 11 and with this recent update and all is good. Please send me an email directly to iradirad@gmail.com so we can exchange some thoughts on this to join forces.

Irad

Mike Buss

hace 3 d

4nallen

Thanks but the OS is preventing me from uninstalling. Might try a System Restore instead.

13HN1642

hace 3 d

Replying to

Yes, that's the way. Luckily, I make a full backup every morning. With an external program, Windows deletes all restore points during an update. The problem is the security updates from WinDump. As long as the updates are stopped, there are no security updates.

4nallen

hace 3 d

uninstall KB5058499 and VarAC will work again, it works for me at least.

Mike Buss

hace 3 d

Michael

This might be more than you need but not sure how to parse it down since there are so many versions of each.

Thanks for your help!

73 Mike

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\CDF\v4.0

SMSvcHostPath REG_SZ C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1028

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1029

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1030

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1031

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1032

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1033

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1035

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1036

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1038

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1040

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1041

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1042

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1043

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1044

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1045

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1046

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1049

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1053

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\1055

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\2052

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\2070

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\3076

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727\3082

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v3.0

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v3.0\Servicing\Windows

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v3.0\Setup\1033

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v3.0\Setup\Windows

InstallRoot REG_SZ C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v3.0\WPF\

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v3.0\Setup\Windows Workflow

(Default) REG_SZ Windows Workflow Foundation

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Version REG_SZ 3.5.30729.4926

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v3.5\1033

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v4

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v4\Client

InstallPath REG_SZ C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\

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TargetVersion REG_SZ 4.0.0

Version REG_SZ 4.8.09032

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TargetVersion REG_SZ 4.0.0

Version REG_SZ 4.8.09032

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v4\Full\1033

TargetVersion REG_SZ 4.0.0

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13HN1642

hace 3 d

++I suspect it has to do with .NET framework. Can you tell me what versions of .NET you have++ HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\CDF

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v3.0

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v3.5

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v4

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v4.0 I hope that helps. 73 Michael

Mike Buss

hace 4 d

irad d

I have the same issue with VarAC now freezing on start up. I would have to assume its the same Windows update from last weekend. Unfortunately I cannot uninstall that Windows Update.

Here are the NET framework versions that are installed on my computer, running Windows 11

Let me know if you need anything else. I do have a fall back to my Windows 1o computer that is working OK for the time being.

73's Mike (K9QH)

Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile

KB2468871

KB2468871v2

KB2478063

KB2533523

KB2544514

KB2600211

KB2600217

Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Extended

KB2468871

KB2468871v2

KB2478063

KB2533523

KB2544514

KB2600211

KB2600217

irad d

hace 4 d

Gentelman.

I upgraded and did not encounter this so I would need your guys to step in and help me, you and the community.

I suspect it has to do with .NET framework. Can you tell me what versions of .NET you have. you can do this by running this command from your command line (CMD):

reg query "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP"

Jim, N8JE

hace 2 d

Replying to

Irad,

I am having the same issue on both my desktops that I use with VarAC. Here is the information you requested.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\CDF

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v2.0.50727

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v3.0

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v3.5

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v4

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v4.0

irad d

hace 2 d

Replying to

Try installing .NET V4.8 and LMK

Jim, N8JE

hace 2 d

Replying to

Didn't work.

Dirk Koolhaas

hace 4 d

I have exactly the same situationeel. I am fighting for almost a week no. VarAC is OOO now. Iam going to send Irad about this problem now as we speak.

K9JAJ

hace 4 d

I run Win 11 Version 24H2, OS Build 26100.4202. Update KB5058411 was installed back on May 15th. I have used VarAC 11.2.0 more than once since then and have had absolutely no problems running it. In fact, I have never had any trouble with any VarAC version after any Windows update. Maybe I'm just lucky?

73 de K9JAJ

Jeff

Dirk Koolhaas

hace 4 d

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What kind of video/ grappig card are you using? Mine is Nvidea 3050 with latest updates. I am having the mishandeling on my laptop, also with Nvidea grappig card.

K9JAJ

hace 4 d

Replying to

AMD Radeon Vega 8 Graphics. I might mention that my Windows 11 is the HOME edition and not the PRO.